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Unlike past roadster concepts from VW, the Bluesport appears to be intended for production. “It is the fifth time in as many years that we have created such a [concept] car, but this time, more than any other, the signs are looking good that we will get production approval,” a source told Automotive News in August. Expected to enter production some time in the next two years, the car will weigh around 2,200 pounds and be motivated by a 180 horsepower engine with 260 pound-feet of torque. Fuel economy is estimated at 35 mpg in the combined European cycle. The mid-mounted engine yields a weight distribution of 45:55 front to rear. Power is transmitted through a six-speed dual-clutch gearbox. The car’s platform is rumored be shared with the forthcoming Porsche 914, which would slot below the Cayman and Boxster. Request A Price Quote from a Trusted Local Dealer. Submit 49 COMMENTS Lau, 700 days ago 0 0 It’s designed to “compete with Lotus” but will it really? Discuss. Reply Commodore, 700 days ago 0 0 ^ Competitive on what level? Handling-wise, im skeptical anything will come along that is like the Lotus, especially for a cheaper price. But sales wise it should be a great success..people will like its looks, economy, etc. But its real competition will come from soon-to-be discontinued S2000 or the MX-5 or Solstice [GXP] Reply KuroSyn, 700 days ago 0 0 I’m also trying to figure out WHY a Lotus? Lotus is a brand that makes pure sports machines without any gimmicks, I mean the cars don’t even have power windows (option), and even the radio is an option… all for lightness and more concentration on creating a well-balanced relatively low-cost sports car. a VW couldn’t make a car in league with the Lotus, but I do agree with Commodore, it is looking to be a great production car, a replacement to those who want an update on an S2000 or something better than the Solstice or cheaper but almost as good looking as the Audi TTS. I’ll be looking forward to this one. Reply ltbullitt, 700 days ago 0 0 could there be more of a chicks car than the Audi TT…..nevermind. Compete with the Lotus HAHA Reply Nobody Important, 700 days ago 0 0 There’s no way that thing makes production Reply MurcieMe, 700 days ago 0 0 That’s VERY, VERY Audi looking to me. It’s a great looking car, but does not look like it should be wearing a VW badge at all, it should have the 4 rings. I too will be surprised if this makes it to production. Looks like fantastic fun though… Reply Rover3500, 700 days ago 0 0 yes I agree, its very Audi..but suspiciously looks production ready. its not that radical but its pretty. i like it Reply howsmydriving, 700 days ago 0 0 Sounds good in concept, but the devil is in such details as quality and price (areas in which VW usually stumbles), and looks. Reply darx_ider, 700 days ago 0 0 Beautiful and very efficient, I loooooooovvvvvvvveeeee it Reply Madcapp, 700 days ago 0 0 That is a F-n awsome car, its a F-n relevant idea, and Volkswagen is a great brand. Reply Madcapp, 700 days ago 0 0 Oh, and I almost forgot…yea doppelkupplungsgetriebe!!! Kudos to Volkswagen for being the first mass automobile manufacturer to understand that the manual transmission belongs in the same obsolete scrap heap as bias ply tires, ignition points, drum brakes and carburetors. Reply tripleonefive, 700 days ago 0 0 So this cant be competiitive on any level with the Lotus but the new D3 cars can be competitive with the proven Japanese car with no solid proof? Reply Commodore, 700 days ago 0 0 ^ I didn’t say it couldn’t compete on ANY level. I just meant that the Lotus is a lot more hardcore of a sports car than this seems to be and that basically the two cars are trying to accomplish two very different goals – one to shed all the weight it can and the other to look pretty and fill a gap in VW’s lineup. That is nothing like the new Big 3 cars that are aimed at, but also directly compete with the Japanese on every level – price, MPG, interior room, performance, etc. With VW being a mainstream brand and all, saying it is going for Lotus is like those silly commercials that equate Hyundai with BMW..it doesn’t make much sense, the cars are good in their own ways but not meant to be against each other Reply A4, 700 days ago 0 0 so im assuming with 260 torque and the “blue”sport badge its an oil burner? Reply idrinorbarsaku, 700 days ago 0 0 I really like the way this looks. I think it would make a great car for when you are just going out to eat with someone and etc. Reply tripleonefive, 700 days ago 0 0 Hyundai with BMW..it doesn’t make much sense, the cars are good in their own ways but not meant to be against each other. With your logic the Genesis can compete with the 5 Series on every level – price, MPG, interior room, performance, etc. If you say the unproven D3 cars can compete with the J2 cars Reply moparsalesman, 700 days ago 0 0 that jerk can turn any aritcle into something about toyota or honda. this is about a vw comp to a lotus fro crying out loud. Reply golf4me, 700 days ago 0 0 I like it, but I have to say it looks like a preview of an Audi R4, really. Plus the fact that it will never see production, and even if it does it’s going to be 40-50k, why even bother liking it.? Reply darkwingduck, 700 days ago 0 0 …Words connot explain what this car looks like to me. confused? maybe. Reply johnnycanuck, 700 days ago 0 0 Ordinarily I’d love to indulge Madcapp on the merits of a standard versus automatic but since Volkswagen manuals are the equivalent of sticking your dick in a bucket of lukewarm water they’re probably making the right choice here. Reply Madcapp, 700 days ago 0 0 See Johnnycanuck, its smart that you choose to keep your mouth shut before you stuck your foot down your throat down to the knee. Volkswagen doesn’t build their own manual transmissions, they just buy them from (for example) a high quality supplier like ZF, the very same way that BMW, Mercedes-Benz, or many other auto manufacturers do. There’s nothing wrong with the performance or operation of Volkswagens manual transmissions, its just that manuals are obsolete yestertech. Reply Gundy, 700 days ago 0 0 MurcieMe, nice photos on your flickr site by the way. And, I’d love one of these VW’s, I’m as hetrosexual as it gets, but I think obe of these would be cool to own. I also have a TT, and again, I’m not a “chick” like itbullitt thinks of TT owners. Reply Gundy, 700 days ago 0 0 #$%@!.. “still think ONE of these…” Reply The Stig, 700 days ago 0 0 Going with dual-clutch right from the start is the smart play IMO. Reply MurcieMe, 700 days ago 0 0 Thank you Gundy! After next month’s Canadian Auto Show, I should have some more pictures up! Reply tyler_is_aero_tt, 700 days ago 0 0 That’s looks pretty good. I hope the production model stays close to the concept. Reply OmegaAbyss, 700 days ago 0 0 i can’t wait for the forthcoming Porsche 914…i’ll be placing a deposit asap Reply EuroPower, 700 days ago 0 0 aww how cute it’s like a go-kart. i’d do it. Reply Mutant@DCX, 700 days ago 0 0 Boxter rebadge, would look nice parked in the driveway with the [strikethru/]cayanne[strikethru] toureg Reply scratchy, 700 days ago 0 0 Porsche 914… that sounds interesting Reply Avernus, 700 days ago 0 0 Agreed with johnnycanuck about manual transmissions. While automatic is great most of the time, especially during the summer, like johnny, any Canuck who has to drive on ice and snow at least 4 months of the year is going to have a definative opinion about manual transmission. Greater control. nuff said. Reply RaineMan, 700 days ago 0 0 Look! It’s an Audi TT! Reply zoomzoomer, 700 days ago 0 0 Funny, I thought the Boxster was the new-think 914.. wouldn’t adding something beneath it in the Porsche lineup be completely opposite their current quest for exclusivity with $200K sedans? And having a near-twin at VW doesn’t seem to make much sense either.. particularly since this Bluesport already looks like an Audi-ized Boxster! Reply Got Handling?, 699 days ago 0 0 I think this looks fantastic, but I can’t see the Lotus connection. Surely the defining characteristic of the Elise is lightweight simplicity. How can a car with a chunky DSG gearbox and a folding roof mechanism be considered a competitor to that? Reply Automotive_United_Nations, 699 days ago 0 0 I love how everyone instantly tries to bash VW for stating this will be attacking Lotus. First of all, 180hp and 260lb. ft of torque smash the numbers for a Lotus Elise. Secondly, It also gets 35mpg which is almost 10 mpg more on the highway than what an Elise gets. Third, how much do you think the VW roadster will cost in comparison to an almost $50,000 Elise? This car is a great match to the Elise, the extra torque will make up for the added weight over the Elise, and the sticker price will likely undercut the Elise by $10,000 or more. We are also probably looking at the architecture for the new Audi R4, which will replace or stand along side the next-generation TT. Reply DrCruelty, 699 days ago 0 0 Looks pretty good. I can’t personally imagine Lotus buyers switching over though. But who knows. Reply Jas Is Evil, 699 days ago 0 0 From the front this car looks pretty good. Something about the back end just seems off, though. Reply t-ak-box, 699 days ago 0 0 That’s nice, hopefully it makes it into production. It probably should if the rumors of the return of the Porsche 914 or Sub-R8 Audi prove to be true. Reply jonmiles, 699 days ago 0 0 I can’t wait until this comes out as an Audi R4. I’m putting a deposit on one now… Reply jonmiles, 699 days ago 0 0 FYI- I’m hearing rumours from very legitmate sources that the Audi R4 is being seriously considered as the successor to the TT. Reply DaSpyda, 699 days ago 0 0 Price it at $25k (like the MR2 Spyder), keep the manual (like the MR2 Spyder), and throw a Porsche badge on it (from the factory) and I’ll buy it. Reply anti-believer, 699 days ago 0 0 ANOTHER OIL BURNER!!!!! LOOK FOR IT ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD SMOKING! Reply kansei, 699 days ago 0 0 No manual? no care. Also, to anyone who says the torque/hp makes up for any added weight, you clearly “don’t get it”. Go buy your Mustang and shut up. Power to weight ratio means very little when designing a sports car, at least to anyone that matters. Added lightness is key to making a car evoke adjectives/feelings such as nimble, balanced, engaging, etc. I’ll just go back to staring out the window at my Mazdaspeed MX-5.. which is almost too much of a muscle car for my tastes, 15 less hp or at least tires a bit wider would have helped. Reply jonmiles, 698 days ago 0 0 hey kansei, does your boyfriend love your miata as much as you do? Reply maxcar, 698 days ago 0 0 t-ak-box, my words exactly. Reply RaineMan, 698 days ago 0 0 Just another $40,000 car to smoke in my Cobalt SS. Reply Z06ified, 698 days ago 0 0 The mid-engine design is great, but 180hp isn’t gonna cut it. It’s light, but not light enough. With 12.1 lbs. per horsepower, this car is gonna be a slug. Double the HP to 360, then they’ll have something. Even 300hp would be great. The TDI would be a nice option too. A mid-engined diesel roadster. Now THAT is different. Reply strongbad, 698 days ago 0 0 If you are not driving an F1 car, then you don’t need a manumatic. F1 drivers can’t let go of the steering wheel to shift, or they will instantly crash. Thus, steering wheel mounted paddle shifters. Any other vehicle does not need them. You should be able to order them if you want, but a manual better be an option. The last R32 suffered the fate of no manual option, they sat on lots forever, where the original sold out quickly. I drive a manual to actually have control and become part of the experience. I don’t need to shave 0.2 seconds off my quarter mile time on the street. Reply scratchy, 698 days ago 0 0 this has a lot of torque for it’s weight. i think it has a twin-charged gas engine Reply You must be logged in to post a comment. 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A unique body kit, “Pepe Pepper” paint by DuPont (a mix of gold, brown and silver tones), 19 inch wheels and a “Latte Macchiato” and “Cornsilk” (VW’s names) interior leather scheme set the Gold Coast Edition apart from other Passat CCs. Though no word was available on pricing, the CC is expected to be the top model on offer initially. The Passat CC starts under $27,000 and the Gold Coast Edition will feature a 3.6-liter TFSI six-cylinder engine and VW’s DSG transmission. Request A Price Quote from a Trusted Local Dealer. Submit 23 COMMENTS F451, 845 days ago 0 0 This looks more than a VW—it looks like a Mercedes! Wow! VW has come a very long way. Sure to be a major hit here in the States. Reply livelyjay, 845 days ago 0 0 Looks good! Reply ryanpstr, 845 days ago 0 0 Yea, this thing looks great.. But in typical VW fashion, this would be way overpriced.. with all these options and the navigation I won’t be surprise if this thing will be close to tipping the scale at the 50K mark.. btw, you can still argue that this thing is a savings compared to how much they priced the VW Phaeton.. remember that thing.. Reply krautninja, 845 days ago 0 0 i think its a great move, starting the passat cc under 27 but making it a bit nicer than the regular passat… especially since they are killing off the current passat to make it smaller and cheaper to compete with the camry,accord ..ect Reply krautninja, 845 days ago 0 0 according to the vw site, i think they are dropping passat and just callin this the CC Reply DriveCritic, 845 days ago 0 0 Is it named after Australia’s famous stretch of sand and surf by any chance? Anyhow, the car looks bloody fantastic – love the wheels especially. Does the 3.6-litre TFSI make more power than the R36? Reply buytheredcar, 845 days ago 0 0 Looks heavy handed. This isnt VW to me at all. This isnt what they are good at. They shouldve of just stuck to revising their Bauhaus theme. Reply snoboardguy21, 845 days ago 0 1 Gotta love that German flair. This thing is as beatiful (if not more) than the MB it copies. And for half the price! Reply hbcbob3, 845 days ago 0 0 It’s ugly. I don’t like it. Reply F3INT))AP3X, 845 days ago 0 0 “Is it named after Australia’s famous stretch of sand and surf by any chance?” HAHAHAHAHA……..no Reply anderson_b76, 845 days ago 0 0 Typical VW…nice lines but littered with mass amounts of plastic and rubber inside and out. Bound to be a rattle trap like all other VW’s after a couple years of driving it. Reply jumpoffit, 845 days ago 0 0 Pepe Pepper paint? i guess DooDoo Brown was already taken? Reply t-ak-box, 845 days ago 0 0 Nice. This will bring in the masses. If VW can keep the price at around 35k well optioned they should have a real winner. Reply ktulu, 845 days ago 0 0 very nice Reply jonmiles, 845 days ago 0 0 Ugliest thing ever to come out of germany, IMO Reply brassmonkey, 845 days ago 0 0 Now THAT’S how you polish a turd! Good work, VW. Please call Bob Lutz and show him how to do the same. Reply mayer_ray_nagin, 845 days ago 0 0 If this fully loaded edition came in at about $31k they’d have a hit, but it’s a lot more likely it’ll be over $40k in which case VW will be back at the drawing board in about 8 weeks wondering why Americans don’t like their “people’s cars.” Reply Rafa LL, 845 days ago 0 0 Very modern. I like it. Reply bigp, 845 days ago 0 0 nice now were is the power Reply Blakkarr, 845 days ago 0 0 Looks like Buick meets Mercedes-Benz. Might be the color though. Not a bad look at all. Better looking than VWs of previous years. Rue the day when VW works its way into MB and BMW territory. Reply LS7, 844 days ago 0 0 VW will charge a BMW 535i price for this car. No m’am. Reply LS7, 844 days ago 0 0 BTW… target audience: Rich Homosexuals Reply karnut, 827 days ago 0 0 I love the design, the color too. In a sea of silver, gray and black this is a nice change for those that want something different.. I’d say this one will hit 40K as shown. Never owned a VW, but I have heard repairs and maint. are high. However, I think VW is going to 3yr 36k everything included for 09? Reply You must be logged in to post a comment. 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Dubbed the Gold Coast Edition, this special edition Passat CC will include a number of unique features when it arrives in showrooms later this year. A unique body kit, “Pepe Pepper” paint by DuPont (a mix of gold, brown and silver tones), 19 inch wheels and a “Latte Macchiato” and “Cornsilk” (VW’s names) interior leather scheme set the Gold Coast Edition apart from other Passat CCs. Though no word was available on pricing, the CC is expected to be the top model on offer initially. The Passat CC starts under $27,000 and the Gold Coast Edition will feature a 3.6-liter TFSI six-cylinder engine and VW’s DSG transmission. * Registered users of the site do not see these ads. teh POD View Public Profile Find More Posts by teh POD 08-19-2008, 12:01 PM #2 teh POD Scooby Specialist Member#: 90195 Join Date: Jun 2005 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Baltimore, MD Vehicle:RIP RITF teh POD View Public Profile Find More Posts by teh POD 08-19-2008, 12:04 PM #3 Siper2 Scooby Guru Member#: 1134 Join Date: Mar 2000 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Dillsburg, PA Vehicle:2005 Legacy GT Ltd. 2001 Outback LL Bean CC is pretty interesting, I actually like it. I'm rather looking forward to the announced Audi A7, which will be basically Audi's version. Only longer, I assume. Siper2 View Public Profile Visit Siper2's homepage! Find More Posts by Siper2 08-19-2008, 12:09 PM #4 RandomRacing Scooby Newbie Member#: 138089 Join Date: Jan 2007 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Olney, MD Vehicle:2001 GC6 "Slobaru" WOW that looks really good! The description sounded meh, but the pictures put it all to rest RandomRacing View Public Profile Visit RandomRacing's homepage! Find More Posts by RandomRacing 08-19-2008, 12:22 PM #5 Yotsuya Scooby Guru Member#: 935 Join Date: Feb 2000 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: ಠ_ಠ Vehicle:Tony Pond Fan Club Hang on, CC usually means a folding solid roof. It's neither C nor C. Have their marketers been reading 1984 or something? Yotsuya View Public Profile Find More Posts by Yotsuya 08-19-2008, 12:49 PM #6 Siper2 Scooby Guru Member#: 1134 Join Date: Mar 2000 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Dillsburg, PA Vehicle:2005 Legacy GT Ltd. 2001 Outback LL Bean "Usually" is the operative word. "RS" usually means rally sport, but there was a Cavalier RS, and I think if a J-body tried to rally, it would break into three pieces. Siper2 View Public Profile Visit Siper2's homepage! Find More Posts by Siper2 08-19-2008, 01:17 PM #7 Vostok 7 NASIOC Supporter Member#: 30209 Join Date: Nov 2002 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: I'm just Ford-Curious. Vehicle:2010 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor 6.2L CLVRGRL Looks good, but would be better in a different color scheme. I'm not a big fan of any color called "Pee Pee". Vostok 7 Vostok 7 View Public Profile Find More Posts by Vostok 7 08-19-2008, 01:51 PM #8 monovich Scooby Specialist Member#: 8124 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Just outside Vancouver, WA Vehicle:1998 Old Grey Mule Regacy Rype R you gotta hand it to them, thats an attractive vehicle. monovich View Public Profile Visit monovich's homepage! Find More Posts by monovich 08-19-2008, 01:59 PM #9 strohausii Scooby Specialist Member#: 26770 Join Date: Oct 2002 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Tampa Vehicle:'02 WRX midnight black Amazing, I put my finger over the VW emblem to see if I could even guess its a VW, seems like mild but distinct departure from their current design. Pictures 2 & 3 look like MB/Acura interbreeding. strohausii View Public Profile Find More Posts by strohausii 08-19-2008, 03:59 PM #10 MER Scooby Newbie Member#: 38723 Join Date: Jun 2003 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Arlington VA Am I the only one that hates anything "edition"? Lexus had the balls to park a "Pebble Beach Edition" SC430 next to their red LF-A targa at Pebble Beach; all it did was highlight how hideous the SC430 is and emphasize that anything "edition" is only a mockery of what it is trying to represent. MER View Public Profile Find More Posts by MER 08-19-2008, 05:38 PM #11 Siper2 Scooby Guru Member#: 1134 Join Date: Mar 2000 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Dillsburg, PA Vehicle:2005 Legacy GT Ltd. 2001 Outback LL Bean Does it have to have a literal "edition" label? Because Subaru's model structure has its fair share of wacky editions, especially outside of North America.... Siper2 View Public Profile Visit Siper2's homepage! Find More Posts by Siper2 08-19-2008, 05:39 PM #12 Hazdaz Scooby Guru Member#: 14611 Join Date: Jan 2002 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: The Nutmeg state Vehicle:2002 WRX Silver Great looking car, but you know this thing is going to cost way too much money. Hazdaz View Public Profile Find More Posts by Hazdaz 08-19-2008, 07:28 PM #13 robertrinaustin Scooby Specialist Member#: 51964 Join Date: Jan 2004 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Austin, NYC, AK, Mexico.... Vehicle:2008 STi, OB, EVO Blk Sti and EVO, Navy OB What a great looking car. Wonder what the high end will top out at price wise? robertrinaustin View Public Profile Find More Posts by robertrinaustin 08-19-2008, 07:30 PM #14 WagonWielding Scooby Specialist Member#: 143213 Join Date: Mar 2007 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: San Antonio, TX Vehicle:1973 Honda CB350 04 WRX wagon/09 Mini S Meh...rear reminds me of an Oldsmobile or Buick WagonWielding View Public Profile Find More Posts by WagonWielding 08-20-2008, 09:13 AM #15 Mariano NASIOC Supporter Member#: 56 Join Date: Jun 1999 Chapter/Region: PRSIC Location: Guaynabo, Puerto Rico Vehicle:1999 RS-T (Stage V) 2005 LGT LTD Quote: Originally Posted by WagonWielding Meh...rear reminds me of an Oldsmobile or Buick Because of the tail lights... It looks pimp-ish though... Mariano View Public Profile Find More Posts by Mariano 08-20-2008, 10:49 AM #16 design1stcode2nd Scooby Specialist Member#: 112178 Join Date: Apr 2006 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: MD Vehicle:2008 Subaru WRX STI Spark Silver Metallic Looks good, still seems VW is blurring the lines too much between VW and Audi. design1stcode2nd View Public Profile Find More Posts by design1stcode2nd 08-21-2008, 01:16 AM #17 doylfish Scooby Specialist Member#: 88099 Join Date: May 2005 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: 805T0N, M455H0L3 Vehicle:2005 WRX Stg2+ RIP 2003 Suzuki SV1000S ^^^^ what and other brands don't do that at all? how about all the rebadge jobs chevy does between gmc, buick, pontiac, etc. i do have to say though, that is one good looking VW..and i never say that about any volkswagen (except pre-05 R32s) doylfish View Public Profile Find More Posts by doylfish Bookmarks Digg del.icio.us StumbleUpon Google Facebook My Yahoo! « Previous Thread | Next Thread » Thread Tools Show Printable Version Email this Page Display Modes Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode Posting Rules You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts BB code is On Smilies are On [IMG] code is On HTML code is Off Forum Jump Similar Threads Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post VW adds Seven-Speed DSG Option to Passat CC AVANTI R5 Non-Subaru News & Rumors 6 02-02-2009 04:36 PM Vw Passat CC Individual AVANTI R5 Non-Subaru News & Rumors 7 12-07-2008 07:01 PM The new Passat CC is here, also the Routan! bobturismo South West Impreza Club Forum -- SWIC 17 10-10-2008 11:27 AM Drove the new VW Routan van and the new Passat CC, 4 motion 280hp Vr6 bobturismo Off-Topic 22 09-20-2008 03:51 AM Volkswagen unveils Passat R36 Variant Styling Study at Worthersee eurospek Non-Subaru News & Rumors 8 05-23-2008 02:23 AM All times are GMT -4. 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To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. + Reply to Thread Page 3 of 5 First 1 2 3 4 5 Last Jump to page: Results 71 to 105 of 146 Thread: Yet another engine build/ rebuild thread... mk4 AEG Thread Tools Show Printable Version Email this Page… Subscribe to this Thread… Search Thread Advanced Search Display Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode VWinA View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Oct 20th, 1999 Posts 2,388 Re: FV-QR (TMTuned99.5Golf) 05-23-2009 08:24 PM #71 Quote, originally posted by TMTuned99.5Golf »Interesting, I can't say that I've ever even heard of that brand before. I'll have to research them out and see what makes them different.Read this:http://www.the16v.com/volkswag...t.htm Reply With Quote TMTuned99.5Golf View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Jan 27th, 2004 Posts 6,376 Re: FV-QR (VWinA) 05-27-2009 06:37 PM #72 Quote, originally posted by VWinA »Read this:http://www.the16v.com/volkswag...t.htmVery interesting article... I must say that I am intrigued... pricey stuff though. Have to see what it'll cost for enough for my car. A consideration though!Minor update... FINALLY got my head dropped off at the machine shop to have the o/s valve seats installed, guides pressed in and honed and the head decked. Total quote for all that work is $300. Head should be done next Tuesday and I might be able to pick it up in the evening before class. I know I said I would have the head dropped off earlier but with classes 4 nights a week and prior to memorial day weekend working 21 days in a row leaves little time to run around during the week. Especially when the shop is on the other side of town and the only way to get there is to cut through downtown. On a good day 30 min one way, in traffic it's about 1-1.5hrs. Purchased a TT276* cam and a Neuspeed P-Flo intake (both lightly used, cost savings!)... That should help my motor more ya think? Now once I get my head back I just need to clean up the walls for the size diff between the valves and then I pretty much Assemble the top end, FINALLY! Once I have all that completed I can test fit the head on the block with the timing belt attached (head bolts to be not fully torqued, they're the stock TTY) to check for clearances. Things are finally again getting interesting yet at the same time rushed. Maybe that's just because it's the end of the school term and I'm done with it in 2 weeks Anyway you look at it, I'm running around like a chicken with my head cut off. Reply With Quote VWinA View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Oct 20th, 1999 Posts 2,388 Re: FV-QR (TMTuned99.5Golf) 05-29-2009 01:35 AM #73 Quote, originally posted by TMTuned99.5Golf »Very interesting article... I must say that I am intrigued... pricey stuff though. Have to see what it'll cost for enough for my car. A consideration though!I know it all adds up but bang for your buck, you could get quite a bit from this mod as you're engine will be able to run more spark advance.As for $$, I know it adds up but figure around 80$ for the couple of gallons you'll need including shipping.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ories Reply With Quote TMTuned99.5Golf View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Jan 27th, 2004 Posts 6,376 Re: FV-QR (VWinA) 06-06-2009 01:34 AM #74 Update time!!Picked up the head from the machine shop today and am very pleased! Everything looks great. I had them put in the oversize valves seats, press in the valve guides and deck the head. Here I've got all the valves just sitting in the head. Next week I'll put the rest of the valvetrain together on the head. One thing I will have to do after I get it all in is measure from the top of the valve stems to the base of where the valve cover gasket goes. there's a measurement in the Bentley for that so the lifters will have the proper operation. I would have done that today but I didn't have time, college finals next week.Here you can see where I still need to do a little blending with a Dremel on the intake ports due to the oversized seats.Here we have the two o/s valves, +2mm Got this guy in the mail the other day from Chris (2.0t-yook) TT276* cam and then bolted it to my Autotech adjustable cam gear.Speaking to the cam gear, when I bought my first one off a guy here in the classifieds he noted it as for the mk4 2.0 and 1.8T... well, it won't work for my 2.o because it doesn't have the ring windows for the cam position sensor. So since the one gear I had didn't work, I had to purchase another..... I think this one must be for the 1.8T because also the bolt is smaller and the orientation is different (woodruff key)Here's the difference of the two gears:So if anybody wants my spare, it will be for sale I *think* I'm about done purchasing parts for this build, FINALLY! But who knows, I may splurdge for a lightweight flywheel (14lb) and do my clutch at the same time. Though I might be purchasing some of that special coolant, I'm definitely intrigued to purchase some. Reply With Quote vdubxcrew View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Jul 24th, 2004 Location Pullman, MI Posts 3,830 Vehicles93 Corrado VR6, 94 GTI ABA 16v, 01 GTI 1.8t Re: FV-QR (TMTuned99.5Golf) 06-06-2009 09:20 AM #75 With all that work done I'm kinda surprised you didn't go with tapered valve guides. Looks great however. Really anticipating the final outcome. I do ported/modified VR6 and 2.0 throttle bodies, mirror polish and port intake manifolds. PM me for details. Reply With Quote TMTuned99.5Golf View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Jan 27th, 2004 Posts 6,376 Re: FV-QR (vdubxcrew) 06-06-2009 10:53 PM #76 Quote, originally posted by vdubxcrew »With all that work done I'm kinda surprised you didn't go with tapered valve guides. Looks great however. Really anticipating the final outcome.That was actually an after thought of mine but if you read my first post and compare it to what I'm at now, might be able to see I've done a bit more than my original intention. With me bring the crafty machinist that I am, I was actually thinking about taking the guides that I have right now and tapering them myself on the lathe a bit more than anybody offers. Unfortunately I never had the time that I thought I would have to do so. Plus there's also the cost to actual effect factor, aka bang for the buck. My hook up got these guides for $2.22/ each and compare that to the $7.50/each for the tapered on the TT website, you can kinda see why I stuck with the standard ones. Plus I had already purchased the standard ones so I didn't want to buy more. My mind just couldn't justify it for power.I too can't wait for this thing to be done. Oh, found a great deal on the coolant so I may be picking some of that up here shortly Reply With Quote ny_fam View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Visit Homepage Member Join Date Apr 3rd, 2004 Posts 2,099 Re: FV-QR (TMTuned99.5Golf) 06-07-2009 09:37 PM #77 BTW where did you get the over sized seats?You mentioned that the original valves are flat top and the supertech valves are dished. I'd like to know what years and models came with flat top valves..I've only seen the dished from ABA and AEG, and would have preferred using the flat top on my counter flow conversion.I's also like to see the weight difference between the stock valves and the supertech and dished stock valves.BTW nice build... Hope you get to drive it this summer. Ported Performance intakes 8v, MK1, MK2 ,G60, MK3, MK4 Reply With Quote TMTuned99.5Golf View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Jan 27th, 2004 Posts 6,376 Re: FV-QR (ny_fam) 06-08-2009 12:57 AM #78 I got the valve seats from the machine shop that did the work to the block and the head. I couldn't find them but the shop did and they only cost like $10/ each. As for the valves, if you look at my first page you can see the valves that were in there when I CC'd the head. It's the exhaust valves that is for sure flat as it's the sulfur filled kind. This coming week when I assemble the head I can get some pictures comparing the two valves. As for the weight, I'd happily weigh them for you but right now I can't think of any immediate scale precise enough to weigh something as light as the valves. I'll see if I can scout around and find something to do a comparison with. I'll definitely be driving it this summer. Scheduled swap right now is in about 2 weeks. In this coming week I'll be smoothing the radius on the intake from the o/s valves and then assemble the head complete. Once the head is done I can then bolt the head to the block, attach the timing belt, bolt the oil cooler and filter stuff along with the coolant pieces. Oh ya, i WAS going to buy some of that Evans coolant from a guy on ebay that had 4 gallons for $90 shipped but I didn't have the money in my paypal account just yet. Now it's been sold so I guess I can't go that route. Gonna check local to see what I can find to avoid shipping. Reply With Quote TMTuned99.5Golf View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Jan 27th, 2004 Posts 6,376 Re: FV-QR (TMTuned99.5Golf) 06-13-2009 10:12 AM #79 More updates!So yesterday I went over to my parents house and started to assemble the head so I can check to see if I'll have any issues with the valve seating. Now in the Bentley manual there is the dimension from the bottom of the valve cover gasket surface to the top of the valve stem. This dimension is a minimum and used for calculating valve4 seat resurfacing.Per Bentley:AEG, AVH, AZG, BBW, BEV:Intake: 33.8mm (1.331 in.) Exhaust: 34.1 (1.343 in.) For those who are a bit confused, this is what I'm talking about and a picture to how I did it:As you can see I have a block below my depth mic. That block measure 0.474" thick in the center. For 2 of the intake valves, from the top of the block to the top of the valve stem, I got 1.798. That leaves me at 1.324"1.798"-0.474"=1.324"That leaves me with an extra 0.007" that need to be either ground off the top of the valve stems or the face of the valve seat to ensure proper lifter operation. Most likely it'll be taken off the valve stems since I can visually see a height difference between two of the stems.I need to go over all the rest of the measurements and collect them before I proceed any further with the head. I just wanted to check a few and if I found that it was off, I would halt work on the head assembly. In other news, my engine is so excited to be coming together that it developed a severe cause of blue block! This is what I meant when I said that I wanted to paint my motor, Only reason I painted it even is because now if the time to. With all the trouble that I'm going through building my motor I figure I might as well give it something special, so I figured I'd paint it blue. VW has blue in their logos right? So why not. Over spray on the aluminum will be cleaned up later. Yes I should have painted it before attaching the pan and whatnot but the weather wasn't cooperating. Yesterday was a bit toasty and I had time before it started raining. I can clean the block up with some Scotchbrite later, the aluminum that is. So now with the block painted I'm pretty much ready to start assembling the components to it. First item I started to attach was the oil cooler flange. Next was the thermostat and pipe along with the water pump. Now I didn't tighten the bolts down because I wanted to do it all at once so I knew which bolts were fully torqued and which weren't. After I attached the oil cooler flange I started to attach the oil cooler itself, only to run into a big problem. Seems the guy I bought the flange from last fall somehow cross-threaded or did something screwy with the tube that the filter bolts to. I pulled off the flange and noticed that the tube is in there at an angle. If you compare the angle of the tube to the lower surface you'll notice it's not at a 90* angle. So with that problem, I either reuse the flange that I have on my current motor or somehow find another one. Though it seems nobody sells them as I researched the part number (06A 115 417). I also noticed that my lower timing gear seems to have a dent on one of the teeth so again, I either reuse the gear off my motor or I find another.If anybody has a spare crankshaft gear that would work(reasonably priced) I'd potentially like to purchase it off you, hell, maybe even an oil cooler flange if I can't find one. That way I can get the motor assemble and check for clearances before I drop it in my car. Oh the joys of last minute items eh?That's it for now so far but what I plan to do next is clean up the lip on the intake ports from the O/S valve seats, I might do that this Sunday. Maybe then I'll clean up the block a little more and see what I can do about going over my plan for swapping this beast in and make sure I have EVERY piece needed before I do the swap. All I can say is that things will start moving again now that this week finals are over with. This slowed down some because it was the end of the term and I've been taking 4 classes which took up my time.Oh ya, today in autobody class I'm going to weld a bit more on my exhaust manifold. After painting the high temp paint on it, some overspray landed on the inside of the lower mount and uncovered a crack in the weld on the inside. So now I get to fix that because I'd have to run into an exhaust leak down the road because of it. Reply With Quote Kameirocco View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Dec 19th, 2002 Location Blue Ash, Ohio and Portland, Oregon Posts 8,471 Vehicles2005 Dodge stratus SXT Coupe Re: FV-QR (TMTuned99.5Golf) 06-13-2009 10:10 PM #80 The more i learn, the more worrying noises i hear "Play a Windows CD backwards and hear scary messages. Thats nothing, play it forwards and it installs Windows" Reply With Quote TMTuned99.5Golf View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Jan 27th, 2004 Posts 6,376 Re: FV-QR (Kameirocco) 06-15-2009 12:58 AM #81 Time for another small update. Today I went back over to my parents house and ground the small ledge on the inside of the runners from the o/s seats with the Dremel.On another note, I'm finding more small things there were overlooked earlier that's causing an issue now. Seems my springs that I have are a hair too big so I need to have the seats enlarged.... to think I just have the guides pressed in, now they'll need to be removed I bet. Oh well, it's got to be done....While I had the valves in the head I cc;d it and found out the new volume to the chamber is roughly 26cc. If I did the math on the correct compression ratio calculator, the new one will be either 10.8:1 or 11.8:1, that's also depending on which compressed head gasket thickness you go with. I'll have a better answer for the thickness when I crack the motor open that;s in my car. Last Friday morning I ordered my new clutch and lightweight flywheel. I figure that while the motor is out I might as well do the clutch since it's right there. I ordered the ECS lightweight flywheel (14lb) with OEM Sachs 228mm clutch. That should be here this Thursday, yay!Tomorrow I'll be dropping the head back to the machine shop to have the proper size hole for the springs cut and have the valve stems ground so they'll be within the Bentley specs. I got all the dimensions that I need for all 8 valves and it seems as though only 5 need to be ground. Tomorrow I'll update this again with more that I find out. Reply With Quote TMTuned99.5Golf View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Jan 27th, 2004 Posts 6,376 Re: FV-QR (TMTuned99.5Golf) 06-16-2009 10:31 PM #82 So yesterday I dropped the head off back at the machine shop to get a larger seat mill for the new springs. Come to find out that the cutter that they need is an odd ball size so they have to special order it. Should be the end of the week when it's ready, ugh. Oh well, it takes what it takes and any setback is my fault due to improper planning. as they always say, hindsight is 20/20. When I do pick up the head It'll be fully assembled for me ready to bolt on. they'll be installing the stem seals since I guess it takes a special tool to do so. I figure have them get it fully assembled for me since they know what they're doing. Plus they can grind the ends of the valve stems so that they're all at the correct height. On another note, yesterday I ordered a few last(I always say that but there seems to be something I forget) parts for the swap. This is the reason why I had to buy another crankshaft timing gear: I have no idea when it got damaged but I had to order another one. It probably got dented in the almost 3 years that it was sitting in our shop on the ground. Sucks that I just now noticed it but I'm glad I finally did. I would not like to have eaten a timing belt due to it, that would be a nightmare to me!Does anybody know of a metal fuel rail that would work with my motor off the top of their head? I've been thinking it would be nice to have a shiny one under the hood of my car. I know BB makes one for the ABA but I'm not certain it would work with the AEG's. Reply With Quote sgolf2000 View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Mar 2nd, 2003 Location Baltimore, mrrland Posts 1,510 Vehicles00 golf 2.0turbo, 97 jetta vr6, 85 f150 Re: FV-QR (TMTuned99.5Golf) 06-17-2009 01:41 AM #83 bbm's website says ABA/AEG. it appears to be on sale as well. or maybe its always on sale. 00 golf 2.0turbo 97 jetta vr6 85 f150 pickup owning a mk3&4 is confusing, did they have to swap the speedo and tach? Reply With Quote Issam Abed View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Visit Homepage Member Join Date Feb 12th, 2004 Location EVERYWHERE Posts 11,948 Vehicles91 Audi 80 2.0T Re: FV-QR (TMTuned99.5Golf) 06-17-2009 04:36 AM #84 Quote, originally posted by TMTuned99.5Golf »On another note, I noticed that the thrust washers are different than the ones that came with my motor. Seems I have 4 now where as before I had only 2 (pics to come later). The old thrust washers have part number "026 635 A" (VW/Audi stamped on them) and the new ones are by Kolbenschmidt # 026 198 421. Any idea what the difference is for getting 4 washers when I had 2 before?Just a replacement.Every single brand new crate motor I have dismantled from VW/Audi came with 2 thrust washers OEM parts.I have been unable to find an OEM source for the 4 piece thrust bearings out there. Issam N. Abed INA Engineering Inc. Email | Facebook Reply With Quote vdubxcrew View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Jul 24th, 2004 Location Pullman, MI Posts 3,830 Vehicles93 Corrado VR6, 94 GTI ABA 16v, 01 GTI 1.8t Re: FV-QR (Issam Abed) 06-17-2009 10:04 AM #85 I think I remember seeing a alum or comp metal fuel rail stock on the later BBW engine code MK4 2.0's. May be wrong though. Still, it's something to look into. I do ported/modified VR6 and 2.0 throttle bodies, mirror polish and port intake manifolds. PM me for details. Reply With Quote digraph View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Jul 23rd, 1999 Location Bay State Posts 735 Vehicles'00 Jetta, '10 Forester, '09 Matchbox Unimog Re: FV-QR (TMTuned99.5Golf) 06-17-2009 11:22 AM #86 Quote, originally posted by TMTuned99.5Golf »Oh well, it takes what it takes and any setback is my fault due to improper planning. as they always say, hindsight is 20/20. This is why the tuners get the big bux when they sell a kit. I'm sure there's a lot of trial an error for these kinds of involved upgrades. Keep up the great work!! Reply With Quote TMTuned99.5Golf View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Jan 27th, 2004 Posts 6,376 Re: FV-QR (vdubxcrew) 06-17-2009 10:50 PM #87 Quote, originally posted by sgolf2000 »bbm's website says ABA/AEG. it appears to be on sale as well. or maybe its always on sale.Wow, thanks for checking on that! I always remember seeing it for the ABA since nobody really makes performance stuff for the mk4 2.o's. It was while I was typing up my post that it came to mind, should have researched before posting a question. I checked it out and ya, it sure looks niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice! Maybe one of these days I'll see about budgeting it because right now, funds are draining. I've spent a bit more than what I thought I would but it's too easy to just keep dumping money into it. Probably later this summer, at the earliest, or later this year I'll look at picking one up. Well, I'll probably pick the rail up first and then the nice FPR adapter that they show along with it later. Only one problem I see with that beautifully machined piece and putting it on my car.... it's not made by me! Right now every custom machined component on my car I've made myself (I have 3 parts in the works to be machined in the next 2 months). I'm a machinist so putting something else I could make myself on my car is hard for me to do. Then again, how soon I could do it is another thing... like every other project I seem to take on Quote, originally posted by vdubxcrew »I think I remember seeing a alum or comp metal fuel rail stock on the later BBW engine code MK4 2.0's. May be wrong though. Still, it's something to look into.I'll look into that! I have a friend that has an '05 Golf and I'll see if I can take a look under her hood. I think that's a BBW engine as it's the last of the 8v's if I'm not mistaken. Maybe if I Google long enough I can find a picture of one.... Thanks for all the compliments so far on the build! I talked to the machinist who's working on the head and he got a hold of a cutter for the valve spring seats and is on the way. Looking like Friday I should be able to pick up the head fully assembled...... Reply With Quote TMTuned99.5Golf View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Jan 27th, 2004 Posts 6,376 Re: FV-QR (TMTuned99.5Golf) 06-18-2009 08:25 PM #88 Figure I might as well update this again.Went over to a different auto machine shop than my motor is at (cause this one is closer and it was getting close to rush hour) to ask about throwing a heli-coil in place where the oil filter pick up tube threads in. they said they don't have the proper tools to ensure that it goes in perpendicular to the surface. Essentially they don't have a DRILL PRESS! All the holes that they heli-coil otherwise are all by hand. That I can kind of understand since the tolerance on bolt holes can be kind of loose but wouldn't you want to be sure that it goes in straight? They said that couldn't guarantee that it would be perfectly perpendicular since it's a somewhat shallow hole so they wouldn't do it. They instead gave me a card of the local machine shop that could probably help me out. I told them that I'll just try something myself since I'll be taking a machining class this summer term. Ugh.... there goes that quick fix. I then went over to an import parts store where I picked up the last (There I go again thinking I've got everything.... how many times have I said this? haha) parts and I showed the flange to my friends dad who's the head of the service department. He looked at it after a while and said it couldn't be fixed. He could pull another one off a motor and sell it to me for $125 if I really wanted another one now. I told him no thanks that I'll just reuse the one currently on my car. Side note: Never tell a machinist that something can't be fixed. It can ALWAYS be fixed; just depends on how much time, resources and money you have. I'll fix it in the coming weeks, clean it up and throw it on my car probably.On a much better note, I got my ECS 14lb flywheel and clutch kit in the mail today. One more performance item for my build but better yet, another item that had to be replaced soon, the clutch at least. As I was driving around today I realized that this motor swap is coming at the perfect time because I'm due for a new timing belt. I put my last one on around the ~201k mile mark and currently I'm at around ~254k miles. I'm a hair early but it's perfect timing none the less. So when I pick up the head tomorrow (I hope) I can head over to my parents place and start assembling this thing! Figure I'll throw the cam in the head and install the timing belt and tensioner and whatnot, get that all timed to verify all clearances check out. Oh ya, I'll re-measure the cc volume to verify compression that I might be getting. To get the compressed head gasket number, that I'm certain a lot of people would like to know, I figure I'll do this: Once the new motor is completely operational and running fine I'll measure a distance between two repeatable points on the block and the head, cut the timing belt (I've always wanted to do that!) and remove the head. then I can remove the head gasket and bolt it back down to the head and re-measure the two points to see how much it has changed for an accurate number. Maybe later if I get bored I'll throw up a very rough procedure to how I'm going to go about swapping this over, what order I'll be doing things, for everybody to see. I dunno... Reply With Quote TMTuned99.5Golf View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Jan 27th, 2004 Posts 6,376 Re: FV-QR (TMTuned99.5Golf) 06-19-2009 08:55 PM #89 I should have known things wouldn't go as smoothly as I hoped.... Called up the machine shop today to see about picking up the head as the cutter should have come in by now and they said they could have it ready by Friday to pick up. talked to the shop hand there and he said that the cutter wouldn't be in until next week. I don't know how this could have happened when I was talking to the owner, the guy who was working on the head, Wednesday and I told him to go ahead and order the cutter and have it overnighted. I understood the extra charge but I wanted to install this weekend. I figured the cutter would have come in this morning at the latest and then they could enlarge the seats the extra 0.060" (?) or so, grind the valve stems down the needed amount and put it back together. Guess it wasn't that easy and I'm not that lucky. So now with that minor ( ) setback, motor swap over is pushed back until Saturday the 27th. In a way I guess it's not an entirely bad thing. Next week when my machining class starts I can Heli-Coil the threads for the oil filter flange and get it all cleaned up to bolt to the block. At least then I won't have to use the one that's on my car and it'll make the swap over that much easier. Plus I now have a week of once again checking over everything to make sure it's all in order. Maybe I'll paint the valve cover so it's not the aluminum color anymore.... ya, I think I'll do that. Reply With Quote TMTuned99.5Golf View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Jan 27th, 2004 Posts 6,376 Re: FV-QR (TMTuned99.5Golf) 06-22-2009 10:20 PM #90 Little update and funny story here about the motor currently in my car.So Saturday I was at autobody class working on my car. I took a few items there from my motor to be pained like the valve cover, water pipe, accessory bracket etc... Painted the water pipe black since all the hoses attached to it are black and was going to paint the VC and other bits a nice dark gray. So I picked up some black engine enamel and also some "cast iron" colored stuff. The cap for it was a dark gray so I figure it would work. I go to paint the valve cover and the cast iron color is more of an olive drab with a hit of gray in it! GAH! NOTHING like the cap shows, not even close! So needless to say I didn't paint anything else other afterwards with that color until I had what I wanted. Here's a picture from my phone that I took so you can get an idea what I meant. Yes the white balance is so off but hey, lighting isn't the best in the prep room and it was with my phone.Later that day when I get home I realized my motor was telling me I should have swapped it out this weekend. As I'm unloading my autobody supplies my car starts to overheat. Seems a big leak started and an air pocket formed since there wasn't much coolant left. Of course I was rather cheesed off when this happened. The coolant was leaking from the water flange at the back of the cylinder head, it ate through the little rubber gasket, common leaking place. After that fiasco I filled it back up with water to make the trip home. Right now the mixture in the system is probably about 10% coolant and 90% water. I'm not concerned about the mixture because again, I have another motor and the temperature hasn't dropped below 55* here. I just need to make it through to this weekend. Worse comes to worse, I borrow my dad's truck until I get my motor together.On another funny note about my motor needing to be changed... I was adding water to the system today and I glanced over at my timing belt and something caught my eye.... I somehow seem to have gotten this object stuck in my timing belt..... it's a hard plastic piece I think but feels kind of metallic almost Oh ya, timing belt area is kinda greasy due to the blown front main seal, reason for oil consumption. Guess it's good that I'll be swapping motors here shortly eh? Current timing belt has roughly 54k miles on it though so I'm due for a new one anyways. This is another reason for swapping motors... just because my car has this many miles doesn't mean I want it to feel like it does. And no the current motor doesn't have that many miles on it, just the body. Though I think it's time to start replacing the coolant hoses that nobody seems to replace. Mine seem to be getting a bit weak and soft. Reply With Quote TMTuned99.5Golf View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Jan 27th, 2004 Posts 6,376 Re: FV-QR (TMTuned99.5Golf) 06-24-2009 07:52 PM #91 So I got a bit bored today while I'm over at my parents place and decided to use the time wisely, well, kinda. Since it's a nice warm day out I opted to clean up my aluminum pieces on my block and paint them to go along with the rest of the motor. The cast iron color that I painted the valve cover changed as it dried and came out pretty nice. It no longer has the green tinge to it but more gray now. Since I was happy with those results, I went ahead and paint my oil pan, front plate and oil filter flange (even though I'm not sure I can still use it) the cast color. I must say that I'm happy with the results. The only other painted item not in the picture is the water pipe, oh well. It's sitting on the bench right now. So here's a picture to how it looks right now and I'm happy, whatcha all think? I'll get a different angle later and out in the sun if possible. So far this engine will at least be looking good under the hood when it's done. Now I guess I should paint the engine bay....... hmmm, bet I could at least rattle can it when I swap motors. Reply With Quote Kameirocco View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Dec 19th, 2002 Location Blue Ash, Ohio and Portland, Oregon Posts 8,471 Vehicles2005 Dodge stratus SXT Coupe Re: FV-QR (TMTuned99.5Golf) 06-25-2009 09:06 AM #92 lookin good brian! keep it up The more i learn, the more worrying noises i hear "Play a Windows CD backwards and hear scary messages. Thats nothing, play it forwards and it installs Windows" Reply With Quote TMTuned99.5Golf View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Jan 27th, 2004 Posts 6,376 Re: FV-QR (Kameirocco) 06-25-2009 10:42 PM #93 Quote, originally posted by Kameirocco »lookin good brian! keep it up Thanks Noah!Right now I'm still waiting on the machine shop to call me and let me know that the head is ready. Especially since they said 4 day shipping on the cutter a week ago Wednesday(though they never shipped overnight as I had requested ) and last Friday they said it would be in this week. Aside from all that, picking up some replacement coolant hoses for the motor. Might as well replace them since they're rather old and I don't want to have to deal with the coolant again any time soon. Since I've had to be filling up my car with water so much recently, I cringe and the sweet smell of coolant and the bad memories it brings. I'm thinking I might do the throttle body coolant bypass mod when I slap everything back together if I can. Seems like a good idea and I should have enough spare coolant hoses around to do it . Reply With Quote TMTuned99.5Golf View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Jan 27th, 2004 Posts 6,376 Re: FV-QR (TMTuned99.5Golf) 06-26-2009 03:08 PM #94 Wahoo! The shop just called to let me know the head is for the most part ready. They just want me bring over my bearing caps, nuts, cam and lifters to make sure everything works together. YAY!!! One step closer to assembling this beast! Reply With Quote seattle111 View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Jul 17th, 2008 Posts 174 06-26-2009 03:23 PM #95 Dude awesome post! Great work too. Reply With Quote Jay-Bee View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Sep 22nd, 2007 Location North Alberta Posts 9,288 VehiclesBroke MK4 2.0, 2010 Ford Escape V6 FV-QR 06-26-2009 03:33 PM #96 Is it common for the timing belt to have that wear line down the center? Is it from the tensioner or something?Mine has it as well and it was replaced 50K kms ago, didn't know if I should be concerned.Glad to see the build coming together!No internet at home right now, you still need that stuff from ETKA? I can get the screen shots on a usb key and upload them to my photobucket while i'm at work. 2000 Golf 2.0 -Unitronic Chipped Reply With Quote doodpod View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Apr 27th, 2004 Posts 682 Re: FV-QR (Jay-Bee) 06-26-2009 03:38 PM #97 Quote, originally posted by Jay-Bee »Is it common for the timing belt to have that wear line down the center? Is it from the tensioner or something?Mine has it as well and it was replaced 50K kms ago, didn't know if I should be concerned.Mine has it too; I'm pretty sure it's from the tensioner.Build looks great! Reply With Quote TMTuned99.5Golf View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Jan 27th, 2004 Posts 6,376 Re: FV-QR (doodpod) 06-27-2009 03:31 AM #98 So I FINALLY got the head back today from the machine shop and I couldn't be happier. Wait, yes I could because the damned thing COULD be in my car but it isn't. Anyways, despite having to order a specific cutter for the valve springs and then have the head assembled and everything the end cost to walk out the door with it fully assembled was a mere $45!! I was jumping for joy when he told me that price!So I'll quit the babbling and move on to what everybody REALLY wants to see, the whole engine as one. I'd like to note that nothing is firmly bolted in place right now. I need to insert 2 heli-coils in the holes for the coolant flange before I bolt that on. Tomorrow I hope to go pick up some coolant hoses that will be getting replaced. I'll probably just assemble it tomorrow and make sure I have everything in line for the swap. I was hoping to do that all today but I didn't get the home from picking up the head until 6pm. I'll post more later after I get everything firmly bolted in place and post up torque specs and whatnot. Yes the garage was messy but it's not like I was doing the final build of everything right then and there. I was more so making sure I had everything for bolting it down. From the looks of it I only need to pick up 4 more bolts tomorrow (I can't find my spare supply) and I *should* be good to go. There I go again thinking I have everything, how many times will I say that again before it's true? Guess anybody? Reply With Quote xllllzackllllx View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Semi-n00b Join Date Jun 25th, 2009 Posts 18 06-27-2009 03:26 PM #99 this is simply amazing man...you did one hell of a job....when you get this all done you're gonna put it on the dyno right? Reply With Quote vdubxcrew View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Jul 24th, 2004 Location Pullman, MI Posts 3,830 Vehicles93 Corrado VR6, 94 GTI ABA 16v, 01 GTI 1.8t Re: FV-QR (TMTuned99.5Golf) 06-27-2009 08:38 PM #100 red snapper...very tasty! I do ported/modified VR6 and 2.0 throttle bodies, mirror polish and port intake manifolds. PM me for details. Reply With Quote TMTuned99.5Golf View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Jan 27th, 2004 Posts 6,376 Re: FV-QR (vdubxcrew) 06-27-2009 10:25 PM #101 Ok, so I don't have the pics uploaded but the motor is together and the timing belt is all attached. This has been the EASIEST timing belt I've ever done before! I also rotated the crank over by hand and no interference I'm soooooooooooooooooooo happy!! By the by, compressed head gasket thickness on the motor is about 0.047". Stock head gasket for the AEG is approximately 0.071" before hand.Pics and info to come later! Reply With Quote Pat @ Pitt Soundworks View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Nov 14th, 2008 Location Pittsburgh Posts 2,280 FV-QR 06-27-2009 10:29 PM #102 Did you was the cylinder walls with ATF, assembly lube, or something else? Also, what sealer did you use between the oil filter housing, gasket/baffle, and block? Modified by Pat @ Pitt Soundworks at 9:30 PM 6-27-2009 Reply With Quote Issam Abed View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Visit Homepage Member Join Date Feb 12th, 2004 Location EVERYWHERE Posts 11,948 Vehicles91 Audi 80 2.0T Re: FV-QR (Pat @ Pitt Soundworks) 06-27-2009 10:41 PM #103 Quote, originally posted by Pat @ Pitt Soundworks »oil filter housing, gasket/baffle, and block?Not supposed to use a sealer.You need to use an OEM gasket.Costs about $1.67 from victor reinz and $25 from the dealer. Issam N. Abed INA Engineering Inc. Email | Facebook Reply With Quote Pat @ Pitt Soundworks View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Nov 14th, 2008 Location Pittsburgh Posts 2,280 FV-QR 06-27-2009 10:44 PM #104 hmm, the one I pulled from my block had a blue sealer between the gasket and surfaces. Guess I'll just clean it up and slap it back on. Reply With Quote TMTuned99.5Golf View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Member Join Date Jan 27th, 2004 Posts 6,376 Re: FV-QR (Issam Abed) 06-28-2009 12:26 AM #105 Quote, originally posted by Issam Abed »Not supposed to use a sealer.You need to use an OEM gasket.Costs about $1.67 from victor reinz and $25 from the dealer.Correct, I used an OEM gasket: I used assembly lube while I assembled the motor on all contacting surfaces. 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