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Autocar - News and reviews from the original car experts Skip to content Home Car Reviews News Blogs Videos Forums Cars for sale 6 issues for £1 Volkswagen Golf 1.6 TDI 105 SE review More Pics Email Print Your say Comments: 52 Join the discussion Volkswagen Golf 1.6 TDI 105 SE First Drive Test date 10 September 2009 Price as tested £18,750 Quiet engine and insulated cabin make for a refined drive What is it? The Mk6 Golf but with a new 1.6-litre turbodiesel engine, which replaces the 109bhp version of the 2.0 TDI. For now the 1.6 TDI comes in two states of tune: either 89bhp (available only in S trim), or 104bhp (S or SE) as tested here. A third version will appear later this year in the Golf BlueMotion, with the same 104bhp but better economy and emissions figures. What’s it like? Smooth but slow. At idle and at low revs the 1.6-litre diesel is very un-diesel-like, making the most of the Golf’s refined cabin and relaxed ride. If you’re not in a hurry, this is a ideal car to get places while using the minimum of the world’s resources, the engine returning 62.8mpg on the combined cycle and emitting just 119g/km of CO2. For gentle town driving or motorway cruising the Golf’s performance is entirely adequate, but if you want to pick up speed quickly, for instance to squeeze into a gap in traffic, there isn’t the low to mid-range torque you might expect from a turbodiesel. In VW’s defence, the 1.6 produces as much torque as the old 2.0-litre (185lb ft) but that doesn’t change the fact that it feels somewhat slovenly. Both versions of the engine come with a five-speed manual gearbox as standard, and we can’t help thinking an additional ratio would help lift the performance. You can specify a seven-speed DSG on the 104bhp version, but at a cost of £1455. Should I buy one? If the Golf’s maturity appeals and you’re happy to live with the relaxed power delivery, the 1.6 TDI offers economical and polished family transport. For those who want a little extra performance, the 138bhp 2.0 TDI costs around £1000 more but pushes the CO2 rating up to 129g/km, meaning road tax of £120 (rather than £35) and a BIK band of 15 per cent (rather than 10 per cent). As they say, the choice is yours. 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The Mk6 Golf but with a new 1.6-litre turbodiesel engine, which replaces the 109bhp version of the 2.0 TDI. For now the 1.6 TDI comes in two states of tune: either 89bhp (available only in S trim), or 104bhp (S or SE) as tested here. A third version will appear later this year in the Golf BlueMotion, with the same 104bhp but better economy and emissions figures. What’s it like? Smooth but slow. At idle and at low revs the 1.6-litre diesel is ver...Read the full article Reply J400uk Joined Feb 25, 2008 597 Posts Status: Offline Re: Volkswagen Golf 1.6 TDI 105 SE Sep 18, 2009 5:17 PM Surely this shoudlnt really be any slower than the 2.0 TDI 110? This 1.6 has the same torque and weighs less. Reply Lee23404 Joined Jan 08, 2008 2,657 Posts Status: Offline Re: Volkswagen Golf 1.6 TDI 105 SE Sep 18, 2009 5:36 PM J400uk: Surely this shoudlnt really be any slower than the 2.0 TDI 110? This 1.6 has the same torque and weighs less. Yes it does sound strange. It has enough power/torque in a relatively small car so feel quite swift in most situations, I'd have thought. Reply Dan McNeil Joined Oct 17, 2008 806 Posts Status: Offline Re: Volkswagen Golf 1.6 TDI 105 SE Sep 18, 2009 5:46 PM Lee23404:Yes it does sound strange. It has enough power/torque in a relatively small car so feel quite swift in most situations, I'd have thought. I wonder if a lot of this isn't down to the engine being (presumably) very new and with very few miles on it. Diesels take a long time to fully "loosen up" and give their best. I test drove a Skoda Yeti 170 today, and it felt gutless, absolutely hating to rev. I've also driven a 170 Octavia (same motor) with lots of miles on it and it absolutely flew. After one look at this planet, any visitor from outer space would say: "I want to see the manager." (William S. Burroughs) Reply moe360 Joined Sep 11, 2008 1,520 Posts Status: Offline Re: Volkswagen Golf 1.6 TDI 105 SE Sep 18, 2009 6:06 PM Dan McNeil: Lee23404:Yes it does sound strange. It has enough power/torque in a relatively small car so feel quite swift in most situations, I'd have thought. I wonder if a lot of this isn't down to the engine being (presumably) very new and with very few miles on it. Diesels take a long time to fully "loosen up" and give their best. I test drove a Skoda Yeti 170 today, and it felt gutless, absolutely hating to rev. I've also driven a 170 Octavia (same motor) with lots of miles on it and it absolutely flew. Trust me guys, Dan is correct. when I first got my 1.6 tdi 105 it was a little slower then first expected, but after 2 weeks it is feeling a lot faster. Stick it in 2nd gear and overtaking is a joy. Autocar said the same when they reviewed the New Polo, this review is just a small road test it wont provide the same information as a long term test, which only owners can provide Fly with me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I91MlMBRfuQ Reply jerry99 Joined Feb 22, 2008 324 Posts Status: Offline Re: Volkswagen Golf 1.6 TDI 105 SE Sep 18, 2009 6:32 PM Not quite the ringing endorsement that accompanied the earlier high tech DSG and GTi model launches. No mention of handling or braking capabilities. Perhaps not the main point for an economy model but a lot of satisfaction can be had from such a car if it has the basic chassis capabilities to keep up with more powerful editions. Reply Dan McNeil Joined Oct 17, 2008 806 Posts Status: Offline Re: Volkswagen Golf 1.6 TDI 105 SE Sep 18, 2009 7:04 PM moe360: Dan McNeil: Lee23404:Yes it does sound strange. It has enough power/torque in a relatively small car so feel quite swift in most situations, I'd have thought. I wonder if a lot of this isn't down to the engine being (presumably) very new and with very few miles on it. Diesels take a long time to fully "loosen up" and give their best. I test drove a Skoda Yeti 170 today, and it felt gutless, absolutely hating to rev. I've also driven a 170 Octavia (same motor) with lots of miles on it and it absolutely flew. Trust me guys, Dan is correct. when I first got my 1.6 tdi 105 it was a little slower then first expected, but after 2 weeks it is feeling a lot faster. Stick it in 2nd gear and overtaking is a joy. Autocar said the same when they reviewed the New Polo, this review is just a small road test it wont provide the same information as a long term test, which only owners can provide Plus, the journo who gave us this insightful report might have jumped straight from a much faster car. One that looks like it's styled with an axe. An exclusive brand, even though millions of identikit ones choke the roads. Any car feels a bit slow when you've just driven a much faster one. After one look at this planet, any visitor from outer space would say: "I want to see the manager." (William S. Burroughs) Reply cimardinius Joined Jan 21, 2008 342 Posts Status: Offline Re: Volkswagen Golf 1.6 TDI 105 SE Sep 18, 2009 7:24 PM jerry99:No mention of handling or braking capabilities. Perhaps not the main point for an economy model but a lot of satisfaction can be had from such a car if it has the basic chassis capabilities to keep up with more powerful editions. If there had been a mention, it would to tell just how inferior to a Focus it is. The Autocar party line would be repeated: "...on a favourite B road, it just does not have the exquisite balance, sublime body control, precision crafted handling and incomparable road poise as the class-leading Ford..." Reply Bogester Joined Oct 17, 2008 12 Posts Status: Offline Re: Volkswagen Golf 1.6 TDI 105 SE Sep 19, 2009 10:05 AM cimardinius:If there had been a mention, it would to tell just how inferior to a Focus it is. The Autocar party line would be repeated: "...on a favourite B road, it just does not have the exquisite balance, sublime body control, precision crafted handling and incomparable road poise as the class-leading Ford..." Indeed. In my experience (and I've driven both Focuses and Golfs on numerous occasions) the differences in ride and handling are nowhere near as big as what Autocar would have you believe. A recent edition of Autocar rated the 1.6 Focus petrol more highly that the 1.4 TSI Golf. To me this is verging on insane. The Focus is more expensive (before a discount, anyway), over two seconds slower to 60 mph, less frugal, less refined, no better equipped, and has a far worse quality interior. Go figure... Reply Overdrive Joined Jan 06, 2008 1,132 Posts Status: Offline Re: Volkswagen Golf 1.6 TDI 105 SE Sep 19, 2009 12:20 PM Bogester: cimardinius:If there had been a mention, it would to tell just how inferior to a Focus it is. The Autocar party line would be repeated: "...on a favourite B road, it just does not have the exquisite balance, sublime body control, precision crafted handling and incomparable road poise as the class-leading Ford..." Indeed. In my experience (and I've driven both Focuses and Golfs on numerous occasions) the differences in ride and handling are nowhere near as big as what Autocar would have you believe. A recent edition of Autocar rated the 1.6 Focus petrol more highly that the 1.4 TSI Golf. To me this is verging on insane. The Focus is more expensive (before a discount, anyway), over two seconds slower to 60 mph, less frugal, less refined, no better equipped, and has a far worse quality interior. Go figure... Focus has a slight (and I mean slight) edge in handling. On the other hand, Golf has a massively better ride and all round comfort than the Focus. Add to that better a range of engines, lower noise levels and far higher refinement, superior build quality and a much better interior and the Golf is easily the better car. The fact that Autocar (just about alone among car mags) still insists on rating the Focus higher and the best car in class is a joke. Reply Lanehogger Joined Mar 27, 2009 294 Posts Status: Offline Re: Volkswagen Golf 1.6 TDI 105 SE Sep 19, 2009 1:27 PM Having owned and driven a Focus, i have to say it was an excellent car. However, this model is now 5 years old and was marginally better than the Mk5 Golf when launched. Knowing how much improved the Mk 6 is (or should that be revised Mk 5!), surely the Golf should now be class best on the basis that it's ride is better, more refined, better range of engines and better quality interior. While the Focus is still a great all rounder, surely handling alone cannot make a car class-best when the rest of the car is beaten in almost every other area. Seems Autocar has the same approach to the Focus as it does the 3-Series. Reply moe360 Joined Sep 11, 2008 1,520 Posts Status: Offline Re: Volkswagen Golf 1.6 TDI 105 SE Sep 19, 2009 2:14 PM Dan McNeil: moe360: Dan McNeil: Lee23404:Yes it does sound strange. It has enough power/torque in a relatively small car so feel quite swift in most situations, I'd have thought. I wonder if a lot of this isn't down to the engine being (presumably) very new and with very few miles on it. Diesels take a long time to fully "loosen up" and give their best. I test drove a Skoda Yeti 170 today, and it felt gutless, absolutely hating to rev. I've also driven a 170 Octavia (same motor) with lots of miles on it and it absolutely flew. Trust me guys, Dan is correct. when I first got my 1.6 tdi 105 it was a little slower then first expected, but after 2 weeks it is feeling a lot faster. Stick it in 2nd gear and overtaking is a joy. Autocar said the same when they reviewed the New Polo, this review is just a small road test it wont provide the same information as a long term test, which only owners can provide Plus, the journo who gave us this insightful report might have jumped straight from a much faster car. One that looks like it's styled with an axe. An exclusive brand, even though millions of identikit ones choke the roads. Any car feels a bit slow when you've just driven a much faster one. To be honest the 105 tdi is not slow, my drive to work is around 27 miles. Which consists mainly of start stop 20 -30 mph speeds, and more start stop traffic. The 1.6tdi easily gets through 30 -60mph no problem and is a joy to be in when sat in traffic!!!!, the cabin is first class. If you want a super fast golf you buy a GTI/GTD or forthcoming R20.If you want an affordable (be careful with the options it gets very expensive !!!! ask me),classy, comfortable car with decent everyday performance then the 105 tdi is perfect. Fly with me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I91MlMBRfuQ Reply Page 1 of 5 (53 items) 1 2 3 4 5 Next > Back to top Post this page to: del.icio.us Digg Facebook StumbleUpon Reddit Site links Home Car reviews News Blogs & Features Videos Forums Prices and specs Cars for sale All about Autocar About Autocar Contact us Terms and conditions Privacy policy Send to a friend Newsfeeds Subscribe to our news with our RSS feeds Advertise To advertise with Autocar contact us Buy our magazines Discover our titles at themagazineshop.com Great motoring sites What Car? 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